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alex FORTE wrote: | Calvin did you not read what I wrote?? I say this CLEARLY because I am NOT a hater on hip hop...at least anything the a cultured head might listen to, or may by others be considered UNDERGROUND hip hop: ala Sage francis, Atmosphere, etc. |
you've misunderstood me. at what point did i call you a hater of hiphop? your quickness to dismiss the idea of a hiphop/dnb night instigated my comments, not your taste in music.
instead of talking about how the night wouldn't work, why not entertain the idea a little, and talk about what elements would make the night work. the latter makes for good discussion.
you and i have very different images in our minds as to how the event would be set up. you argue that a 2 room a event absolutely wouldn't work, but i argue a single room event might work if thought out and executed very carefully.
alex FORTE wrote: | I for one love progression of styles in a night, hip hop included, but unless there is heavy emphasis on the hip hop, then the only ones that will be there will be ravers listening to hip hop for whatever said period of time. If your goal is to get more people, and you properly include those MAINSTREAM hip hop elements...say you book scratch master L vs Eddie Bauer for a 107.9 live broadcast (type set), and promote it heavily to said market, do you really want to have dj SS or Dieselboy in an adjacent room?
No, i may not know anything. If anything, I do know that i dont. However, I have seen this be the case, both at my shows and at many others over the years. The best case scenario, you have a talented dj with a versatyle MC in the drum and bass area, and you get some heads that come over for periods of time (note that this may be foreign sounds to most of this crossover crowd) and you may possibly build a following (over time with numerous events...best advised at the same location/time). Say the person coming into the room feel it isnt for them, they walk out back to the rap area. Worst case scenario, both rooms are filled and theirs a flow of the crowd between rooms during the event, as well outside the club after it closes....well, lets just say ROWDY is an understatement.
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you're right. a two room event probably wouldn't work. a two room event may attract people from two different tastes of music (or lifestyles), but it won't mean the two crowds will automatically mix. that kind of thing reminds me of the sasha and digweed show a couple of years back at the agora, where you had party kids in the main area and metalheads in the ballroom. the place was sure filled up, but i didn't see any rockers high-fiving the kiddies by the end of the night.
superimposing two different crowds in the same night, but keeping them in separate rooms, is like putting muslims and the kkk in the same movie theatre (for different movies) and expecting them to get along on their way out of the door. there was no reason for them to get a long during the evening, there won't be any reason after the movies are done.
but picture this though (and this is the idealist in me), a single room event where the music was done well. i mean really really well. the hiphop was on, the mc was doing his thing, and the crossover tracks and dnb were moving the crowd sweaty. it's obvious that people are having a good time vibing together. is the hip-hopper on his way out of the door going to say to the party kid, "hey we all had a great time together, but you're still a mutherfocker and i want to kick your ass now." i don't really think so.
yes, both types of music are going to attract their own kind of riffraff, but if everyone's feeling the music together, conflicts are less likely to occur. that's just one of the things that amazes me about music, is it's ability to make people let down their guard and put aside their differences for the sake of having fun.
if the end goal of the night is just to draw the numbers, then yes, there will be problems. but if numbers isn't the goal, things start at a low scale, but with the right vibe, i could see a night like this doing really well. the right elements just need to be in place.
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