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Posted by: mattgarwood Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List
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I've been producing dance music and mixed sets on my PC for a few years now. My core applications include Acid Pro, Reason & Live.

My question: What's Cubase? What can it do that is above and beyond what I'm already using? What's the advantage? Also, is it a competitive product to Protools? My brother got a Protools console for his home studio, and it's cool, but is it a tool that has a significant advantage over other tools?

I guess my question is what could these seemingly high-end apps [potentially] do to improve my music (If anything)?

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Cubase is a Multitrack HD recording software with a great MIDI sequencer...much like Sonar, Logic, Digital Performer, and Protools.

It pretty much acts as a large dynamic mixing console in a studio ALONG with the ability to record to your HD.

As you know, Protools is by far the industry standard for studio recording on DAWs. (Digital Audio Workstations) However, Protools lacks a little in it's MIDI capability. (it's there...just not the easiest thing to work with) That's why a majority of electric musicians produce their tracks with a Logic, a Cubase, a Sonar, etc etc. ( it's also not uncommon to see procuders use Protools for say live instrument recording, vocals, etc etc...and then maybe Logic on a Mac for all the soft synths, MIDI sequencing, etc etc)

Some people produce a whole track in Reason, a whole track in Live, a whole track in a standalone sequencer...it's up to you, really. the programs you listed all can handle plug-ins...so it's pretty much up to you.

Hope this helped a little bit!

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Yeah, it does help. That makes sense, actually, because my brother is more into live band type work, so that could be why he's invested in protools.

Oh that raises another question I have... what's "Project 5" ?

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Project 5 is *basically* Cakewalk's solution to loop-based groove/track creation. Not unlike Ableton's Live and Sony's Acid

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In the US protools is the standard. Everybody wants protools! Moose is correct on the fact that protools is better for audio where the others are better at both audio and midi. In Europe the standard is Logic. Among electronic music producers Logic is the most widley used seq. with Cubase comming in second. In the last two mounths we have had meet and greets with some of our guest djs that have come to Pitts. John Kelly,Simply Jeff, Ken(ECB), and Influenza to name some. They all use Logic.

What I have found is that you can produce quality tracks with any of the software that was mentioned in previous posts, but logic gives me higher quality FXs and the sound engine is much better. Going to a question that Moose had asked me before. I tend to start a track with Abelton Live(especially if I'm doing a remix). Abelton Live enables me to drag and drop loops either from sample cds or a sample from a record in and kind of schetch out ideas. I can also add software instruments for more sounds.
Abelton Live "5" is amazing at time steatching accapellas!(which is the main reason) You will find that you have to fine tune it a little bit, but over all it's right on. I try to leave everything dry as possible. Once I have a good start on a track I'll bounce everything out as separate tracks and bring them into Logic for arrangement. I add most of the FXs in logic and do the final mix. I may also add more sounds from Logic's wide range of software instruments.

Y? The sound engine of Logic! When I'm working in live I make sure the song is not clipping. Once I get it into Logic I'm able to get the track to be even louder with out clipping. It also sounds much more clean. I also have more control of each sound with logic pro's 65 + Fx plugins. I can make each sound sit where I want.

If I wasn't using logic I would use Cubase. I've heard a lot of good things about it. If your looking for good reading material. Check out Computer Music Magazine. You can get it at borders. Every issue has great articles on how to be a better computer music producer. I highly recomend! Peace, Brad

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